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MAN TGL ZBR - Anyone with MAN ZBR Module can measure 2 points for me

GrahamR 22 Gru 2017 11:21 954 5
  • #1 22 Gru 2017 11:21
    GrahamR
    Poziom 8  

    Hi all, are there any electronics guys with a MAN TGL ZBR module on the shelf can help me ? I have a ZBR that was blown up due to battery reversal , only fault i have now is low resistance on the supply line to the processor. I was hoping someone on here might be able to measure the resistance of the line for me so i can compare, if anyone can help please contact me.

    ZBR number is: WABCO 81.25806.7070

    Thanks in advance

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  • #2 23 Gru 2017 14:33
    charitou
    Poziom 7  

    MAN TGL ZBR - Anyone with MAN ZBR Module can measure 2 points for me

    Dodano po 7 [minuty]:

    Open control unit and check these diodes.(big one is a tranzorb for sure) You may find more of them between pins. in the photo you see some missing, i remove those as spare parts. Most probably some of them are shorted.

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  • #3 23 Gru 2017 15:29
    GrahamR
    Poziom 8  

    Charitou, many thanks for your replay.
    I have replaced all those components yo mention which were indeed faulty, now i can power up the board on the bench without shorting the power supply. Now my problem is that there is one short circuit on the supply line to the MCU. In my drawing, if you see the RED dot , if i measure to GND at this point i get just 6Ω , The 750ma fuse has been removed because it was shorted and it blows on replacing. The TVS diode across the fuse was also shorted and has been removed. The voltage coming out of the coil going to the GREEN pad (with fuse removed) is 21.6v

    The voltage coming out of the other coil by the way is 14.5volts.

    My problem is; i don't have drawing so i do not know what the voltage at the GREEN dot should be and i do not know what is the correct resistance to ground at the RED dot. I suspect the MCU is shorted internally.

    Regards
    Graham

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  • #4 23 Gru 2017 16:52
    charitou
    Poziom 7  

    Just power up the ZBR. you should have 5V there. If you have bench PSU, try powering up the point, with current limit to minimum. Gradually increase current carefully and inspect if any IC is heating up.

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  • #5 23 Gru 2017 17:37
    GrahamR
    Poziom 8  

    Thanks again for replying but as i said before, i have bench power to the module & now after replacing the protection diodes you mentioned (including the big one) the power is not dragged down BUT as i said before, the 750ma fuse will blow straight away and the voltage at the fuse is 21.6volts (high) & the resistance of the supply to the MCU is just 6 ohms.

    I think there are 2 problems, the power supply is not correct and is supplying too high voltages (14.5 and 21.6) through the white coils and i suspect MCU is short. I think will have to lift the supply pins on the processor to see if this removes the short (6Ω)

    Thanks anyway
    Graham

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  • #6 03 Sty 2018 17:03
    GrahamR
    Poziom 8  

    Still got this module on my bench, does anyone have a circuit or can measure the voltages etc at the points mentioned ?

    Regards
    Graham

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